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Why was Nathan in Rio de Janeiro last week? Why was he there in 2018? What did he do there? What new fruits did he try? These are some of the important questions Joseph asked Nathan on this week’s episode.
Links:
Brazil with a Z vs Brasil with an S - example 1
Brazil with a Z vs Brasil with an S - example 2
Artwork:
Picture of Rio de Janeiro taken by Nathan from Pão de Açúcar
Recorded on 9/2/2024
Saturday Aug 31, 2024
Saturday Aug 31, 2024
How did the spy-fi literary and cinematic genre come to be? This week Joseph and Nathan chronicle how detective fiction authors took inspiration from sensational espionage cases such as The Dreyfus Affair and The Rosenberg Trial to imagine what the front lines of The Cold War might look like. The boys cover “realistic” spy movies such as James Bond’s Dr. No, Three Days of the Condor, and The Bourne Trilogy before going into fantastical depictions of spies in Children’s media like The Spy Kids, Kim Possible, and Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. Amongst other things they discuss the difference between state and industrial espionage, Austria’s constitutionally mandated status of neutrality, and Edward Snowden’s modeling portfolio.
Links:Nathan’s InstagramWas the Rosenberg trial America’s Dreyfus AffairThe Scarlet Pimpernel by Baroness OrczyThe Thirty-Nine Steps by Charles BuchanEp. 53: Bond Girl Summer by Nymphet AlumniPhotos from young Edward Snowden’s brief modeling careerTrying to Make Sense of Hannah Diamond and Post-Ringtone Music by VICEThe Real Life Spy Behind Charlie And The Chocolate FactoryChildren of undercover Russian spy couple only learned their nationality on flight to MoscowExclusive: Suspected Chinese spy targeted California politicians
Artwork:Sean Connery playing James Bond in From Russia With Love
Recorded on 8/16/2024
Thursday Aug 15, 2024
Thursday Aug 15, 2024
Full episode available on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/SilentGeneration
This week the boys are joined by local filmmaker Charles Livingston to discuss male desire. They begin by first discussing straight male desire (the derision of the male gaze, male jealousy and possessiveness, and gender performance) before going into a deep exploration of Nathan’s thesis that yearning is the most universal and inexorable difficulty experienced by gay men. Amongst other things they discuss how the Ancient Romans conflated sexual conquest with imperial conquest, how Cleopatra in Shakespeare's Antony and Cleopatra weaponized mens’ desire, and how straight men and gay men seem to equally match each other in terms of desire.
Links:
Charles Livingston’s Instagram
Wings by Charles Livingston
Oscars 2018: Facts and figures about the members of the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences - Orange County Register
The VICE Guide to Being Gay
Armond and Mark scene from the White Lotus
Artwork: Germanic Warrior with Helmet, Osmar Schindler, 1902
Recorded on 8/11/2024
Friday Aug 09, 2024
Friday Aug 09, 2024
On this week’s (sans Joseph) episode of Silent Generation, Nathan is joined by his friend Kamara to discuss antiques. They talk about how they first got into antiques, the best antiques that they own, and the defining characteristics of several antique furniture styles (Victorian, Arts & Crafts Movement, Art Nouveau, Art Deco, and Mid-century Modern). Amongst other things they discuss how Victorian antiques and houses are construed as being haunted, how antiques seem to be most popular in rural areas, and how the antiques industry acts as a point of intergenerational exchange between different generations of gay men.
Links:
Antiques Pinterest Board (Nathan’s antiques are at the bottom)
A Lamp & Fixture Corp
Tighlman Chicago
Justanswer Antiques
The Blue Fairy Book edited by Andrew Lang
Campbell House Museum
The Slav Epic by Alphonse Mucha
THREATENED: Hector Guimard’s Art Nouveau Metra Entrance
Restor-A-Finish Youtube demo
The Roger Brown Study Collection
Artwork:
Art Deco Cubist Armchair in Vermilion Mohair Velvet and Maple, Belgium, 1920s
Recorded on 8/4/2024
Saturday Aug 03, 2024
Saturday Aug 03, 2024
This week the boys cover a listener suggested topic that is closely associated with their lines of work: unions. Nathan is currently a librarian represented by the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees (AFSCME), and Joseph works in the heavily unionized construction industry. Amongst other things they discuss how violent strikes were prior to the formation of the NLRB in 1935, how the Haymarket Affair lead to creation of the 8 hour work day, how YIMBYs feel ambivalent toward unions, and how unions mitigate but don’t eliminate the deleterious effects of monopolization.
Links:
How Chicago’s Past Resulted in Disproportionate Lead Poisoning of Minority Children of the Present: A Narrative Review
The Redneck Army Refuses to Stay Buried by Cassady Rosenblum
Ep. 164: Labor Union Depictions in Hollywood by Citations Needed
Ten cities facing the worst of the pension crisis
CTA has only netted 4 rail operators this year Reddit post
Noisy and Unsafe: Stop Fetishizing Old Homes by M. Nolan Gray
A ton of variation in construction labor cost M. Nolan Gray tweet
Artwork:
Der Streik by Robert Koehler
Recorded on 7/28/2024
Tuesday Jul 30, 2024
Tuesday Jul 30, 2024
Full episode available on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/SilentGeneration
Christopher Lasch identified narcissism as the dominant pathology of the Baby Boomer generation in his seminal work The Culture of Narcissism and suggested that prior and future generations of Americans would also exhibit collective pathologies. What is the dominant pathology or ideology of the Millennial generation? On this week’s episode Joseph and Nathan are joined by their friend Bobby to present evidence that said ideology is nihilism. They examine the causes of Millennial nihilism (The Great Recession, 9/11, New Atheism) and the effects that nihilism has had on Millennials (“cutting off your family” discourse, distrust of authority, the proliferation of sexwork, and the increasing number of deaths of despair). Amongst other things they discuss what generation they personally identify with, how nihilism has been slowly accumulating from generation to generation, and how both Rick and Morty and Everything Everywhere All at Once use the idea of multiverses to create worlds in which nihilism is justified.
Links:
The Culture of Narcissism by Christopher Lasch
The Revolt of the Elites by Christopher Lasch
“Optimistic Nihilism” Tiktok Video
The Nihilism of Generation X is an Artifact of Privilege by Shane Burley
The End of History and the Last Man by Francis Fukuyama
“I’m tired of living through historic events” meme
The Case Against the Sexual Revolution by Louise Perry
‘Everything Everywhere All at Once’ in the Age of #StopAsianHate and Millennial Nihilism
Recorded on 7/21/2024
Saturday Jul 20, 2024
Saturday Jul 20, 2024
Ivy Style, otherwise known as Ivy League, is a style of men’s dress that became mainstream at Ivy League schools during the 1950’s. Students started wearing casual versions of the traditional menswear staples worn by their fathers and started wearing clothing originally designed for recreational activities outside of sports fields. On this week’s episode Joseph and Nathan delineate various Ivy Style staples and talk about several groups that adopted the look: Jews who dressed Ivy in order to blend in in professional environments, female students at the Seven Sisters schools who dressed Ivy in a strikingly masculine way, and Black civil rights activists who dressed Ivy in order to persuade White Americans that they were equals. The boys then round off the episode by critiquing the Ivy League as an institution.
Links:
Ivy League Pinterest Board
The Ivy Style Primer
American Ivy: Chapter 1 - Articles of Interest
Take Ivy by Hayashida, Teruyoshi
The Weird and Glorious Culture Shock of “Take Ivy”
Kiel James Patrick’s Instagram
Man fired for being ‘too American,’ old, wearing khakis: EEOC complaint
Visual snow syndrome grid pattern post
What is Black Ivy, and why you've never heard of it
The Zoomer Question by Isaac Wilks
Air rage triggered by walking past first-class seating, study says
Liquidated: An Ethnography of Wall Street by Karen Ho
Pete Buttigieg McKinsey tweet
Artwork:
Sunday in the Ivy League from Take Ivy
Recorded on 7/15/2024
Tuesday Jul 16, 2024
Tuesday Jul 16, 2024
This week Joseph and Nathan are joined by Marissa Macias, a local artist and fashion designer who owns the insect-inspired clothing brand Petrichor, to discuss insect aesthetics. They begin by examining 7 of the ~30 extant insect orders: hymenoptera (ants, bees, wasps), odonata (dragonflies), coleoptera (beetles), orthoptera (grasshoppers, crickets), mantodea (mantids), lepidoptera (butterflies, moths), and heteroptera (true bugs). Amongst other things they discuss Chicago’s recent dual cicada brood emergence, how insects appeared in pre-modern still lives because of their association with death, and how decline in insect biomass could result in systems collapse and a sixth extinction.
Links:
https://www.petrich0r.com/ (online shop)
Petrichor (Instagram)
Marissa’s Neurobasis Kaupi Are.na Channel
Maria Sibylla Merian
The Insect Asylum
Cicada Parade-a
Carravagio’s Basket of Fruit
Durer’s Stag Beetle
Eating Bugs to Save the Planet by Dana Goodyear
The Collapse of Insects By Julia Janicki, Gloria Dickie, Simon Scarr and Jitesh Chowdhury
Earth Is Not in the Midst of a Sixth Mass Extinction by Peter Brannen
Ocean Trash Is a Lifesaver for Insects by Daniel Strain
Artwork:
Neurobasis Kaupi by Marissa Macias
Recorded on 7/10/2024
Wednesday Jul 03, 2024
Wednesday Jul 03, 2024
Full episode available on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/SilentGeneration
Originally started as a Facebook page by three Portland natives, health goth was an online internet aesthetic that proliferated from 2013 to 2015. Health goth imagery and fashion incorporated monochrome color schemes, performance wear brands (particularly Nike, Adidas, and Y-3), chav culture, light weaponry, face masks, and fitness culture. Where did it go, and why has it been erased from public memory to a greater degree than other early Tumblr aesthetics? On this week's episode the boys explore how the aesthetic was later commandeered and mishandled by the controversial former Chicago club kid Johnny Love. Amongst other things they discuss how the aesthetic side of Tumblr often made them feel “Tumblr fatigue,” how local DIY scenes are a recipe for drama and GoFundMe disasters, how goth clean girl looks eerily reminiscent to health goth, and how phonk seems to be health goth music incarnate.
Links:
Health Goth Pinterest Board
Health Goth Facebook Page
healthgoth.com
Cottweiler: 2014 S/S Collection
What Health Goth Actually Means by Adam Harper
Health Goth Fitness Manifesto
#HealthGoth - Hashtags Season II by Red Bull Music Academy
execussion.tumblr.com 2012 by Celestial Youth
Is the Health Goth Movement Selling Out to the Mainstream?
meme about scene rants
famous 2012 basement group photo w/ Johnny Love
Johny Love’s recent health goth facebook post
The DigiFairy’s goth clean girl Instagram reel
Phonk Aesthetics
Artwork:
Jazzelle Zaughnatti wearing a Dead Worldwide shirt
Recorded on 6/30/2024
Thursday Jun 27, 2024
Thursday Jun 27, 2024
While many recent episodes of Silent Generation have focused on decline, this episode explores how movie theaters have had multiple golden eras. Vaudeville theaters, nickelodeons, movie theaters, drive-ins, and multiplexes have each offered unique ways for moviegoers to enjoy films. Joseph and Nathan begin by discussing the history of movie theaters before examining four iconic movie palaces in Chicago: The Garrick Theater, The Chicago Theater, The Music Box, and the Ramova Theater. Amongst other things they discuss how movie studios used to bundle blockbusters and B-movies together in a now illegal practice called “block booking,” how the stars in the ceiling of The Music Box theater remind them of Grand Central Station, how modern movie theaters have an Art Deco-esque aesthetic that is called Decoplex, and how Alamo Drafthouse Cinema workers are unionizing.
Links:
Downtown Chicago’s Historic Movie Theaters by Schiecke, Konrad
Avondale Time Machine posts about movie theaters in Avondale
All Extant Louis Sullivan Buildings in Chicago
The Last American Possession screening at the Music Box on July 24th
CTA Bus Hit, Damaged Ramova Theatre Days After Building Earned Initial Landmark Status
Alamo Drafthouse Made Millions. Exhausted Workers Said Enough
Artwork:
The Music Box
Recorded on 6/23/2023
Joseph & Nathan
Joseph (left) grew up in Las Vegas and works in construction management. Nathan (right) grew up in Chicago and works as a librarian.
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