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Why did Joseph go to Copenhagen last week? Did he bike around a lot? How many hot dogs did he eat? How was Malmo, Sweden? These are some of the important questions Nathan asked Joseph on this week’s episode.
Artwork:Street photo Copenhagen ... Summer and sun by Ivan NaurholmAttribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivs (CC BY-NC-ND 2.0)
Recorded on 10/27/2024
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Hyperpop is a music genre that is noted for its hyperfeminine, artificial, and childlike sound. The term “hyperpop” came into popular use after Spotify staff created a hyperpop playlist in 2019. The music the term described emerged much earlier however, with the earliest examples coming out of the renowned UK record label PC Music starting in 2013. This week Nathan is joined by his friend E to delineate the three main subgenres of hyperpop: future pop, internet pop and digicore. They discuss music by Danny L Harle, A. G. Cook, Hannah Diamond, QT, SOPHIE, Charli XCX, 100 Gecs, Alice Gas, Food House, and others. Amongst other things they discuss how how they first came to find PC Music, how digicore is NEET music, and how both Hannah Diamond and Dis Magazine used “superreal” aesthetics.
Links:Nathan and E’s Hyperpop Spotify PlaylistGFOTY vs. LITTLE MIX - The InterviewPC Music’s GFOTY criticised after calling Toumani & Sidiki Diabaté “Bombay Bicycle Club blacked up”Why did GFOTY leave PC Music? Reddit postTHE 3 PILLARS OF HYPERPOP Reddit postTwo Bloods Called by I’m so Popularhttps://studio.hannahdiamond.com/MEAT’s AW12 I LUV U campaignMEAT’s AW13 Believe campaignUr Not a Baller by Serious ThugsAlis Pelleschi’s InstagramHey QT - The Story of a Popstar Who Never ExistedBaby Bubbles by QTHood By Air AW 2014 runway showVroom vroom vineHyperpop: How Charli XCX Created a New Genre100 Gecs opening for Deftones video404 Error, Genre Not Found: The Life Cycle of Internet Scenes by Sophie Walker Alice Gas, Alice Glass, 100 gecs Drama Explained Reddit post Dis Magazine/ PC Music collaborations
Artwork:Artwork for Pink and Blue by Hannah Diamond
Recorded on 10/27/2024
Thursday Oct 24, 2024
Thursday Oct 24, 2024
Kevin Heckart is a Kansas City based artist who created the artwork behind seapunk’s original aesthetic. This special episode coincides with both the one year anniversary of Silent Generation and the relaunch of the seapunk clothing line Mainframe, which features many of Heckart’s designs. The first half of episode is an interview with Heckart that serves as a spiritual threequel to Silent Generation’s prior two seapunk episodes while the later half is a broader conversation about net art and net artists such as Brad Troemel, Hito Steyerl, Laturbo Avendon, and Lorna Mills. Amongst other things they discuss how Heckart has gone viral on Tiktok for hacking animatronic fish and furby toys, how Nathan and Brad Troemel did the same undergrad program, how Hito Steyerl incorporated real life biographies into Factory of the Sun, and how Skibbidy Toilet shows how thoroughly post-internet aesthetics have permeated popular culture.
Links:
mainframehq.net
Mainframe’s Instagram
Kevin Heckart’s Instagram
Kevin Heckart’s Tiktok
I hacked a singing fish. - Kevin Heckart
“and yet a trace of the true self exists in the false self” meme
HIS BRAIN? NO. HIS HEART Brad Troemel meme
The Post-internet Culture Report by Brad Troemel
Untitled, 2016 by Laura Owens
Trojan Horses: Activist Art and Power by Lucy R. Lippard
Color(ed) Theory Series by Amanda Williams
Rhizome’s Net Art Anthology
My Boyfriend Came Back from the War by Olia Lialina
Madison Beer #NoFilter by Dis Magazine
I was Raised on the Internet exhibition at the MCA
Transdimensional Serpent by Jon Rafman
The Jogging Tumblr blog
Army of Ants by Brad Troemel
Giant Arthropods Eating Doritos early meme
Liquidity Inc. by Hito Steyerl screenshot
Factory of the Sun by Hito Steyerl
takeSomeCrime Youtube channel
In Defense of the Poor Image by Hito Steyerl
In Defense of the Poor Image-esque Instagram post
GIFS by Lorna Mills
Repetition Mindset: Artists as Snowflakes by Brad Troemel
Artwork:
Provided by Kevin Heckart
Recorded on 10/16/2024
Tuesday Oct 08, 2024
Tuesday Oct 08, 2024
Full episode available on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/SilentGeneration
For this week’s episode Joseph and Nathan watched Francis Coppola’s latest (and likely final) film, Megalopolis. The film draws parallels between Ancient Rome and modern day New York City and has been met with widespread confusion. The boys discuss the film in the first half of the episode, detailing the performance of several actors (notably Aubrey Plaza’s role as the brilliantly named Wow Platinum) and the film's various references to Ancient Rome. In the second half of the episode the boys discuss megalopolises more broadly, including ones in real life (the Northeast Megalopolis, the European Megalopolis, Japan's Taiheiyo Belt, and China’s various megalopolises) and fictional examples (the megalopolis depicted in the 1927 film Metropolis, Mega-City One in Judge Dredd, and Coruscant in Star Wars).
Links:
Martin Scorsese Had a Cinema Epiphany ‘Too Late’
Megalopolis Plot meme
Megalopolis Movie Clip - Cesar is Mine (Wow Platinum elevator scene)
Nymphet Alumni’s Ep. 90: The Baby Name Game with Sophie Kim
Francis Ford Coppola Didn’t Want ‘Megalopolis’ To Be “Some Woke Hollywood Production,” Casting “Canceled” Actors from Deadline
Tell Your Children by Alex Berensen
Megalopolis: The Urbanized Northeastern Seaboard of the United States by Jean Gottman
What if the cities of Jersey City, Elizabeth, Union, Newark, Hoboken, and others became one larger city like NYC? Reddit post
Why is there no major city here? (Boroughitis) by Urban Jersey Guy
The location of Gotham city
Cars.destroyed.our.cities Hartford, Connecticut post
Blue Java Banana Review by Weird Explorer
Artwork:
From Megalopolis' Interactive Scene Explained: What Happens In It
Recorded on 10/6/2024
Tuesday Sep 24, 2024
Tuesday Sep 24, 2024
What is Chautauqua? Chautauqua began in 1874 in Chautauqua, New York as a Summer camp that trained laymen to be Sunday school teachers. President Ulyses S Grant visited the assembly shortly after its founding in 1875, which gave Chautauqua widespread attention and engendered a national movement; the original Chautauqua (now known in the modern day as the Chautauqua Institution) gave rise to hundreds of “daughter” Chautauquas. They offered week long or month long retreats to religiously minded vacationers who wanted to enjoy nature but also wanted to stay productive by watching edifying sermons, lectures, historical impersonations, and concerts.
On this week’s episode the boys discuss how the popular Chautauqua speech Acres of Diamonds resembles the 21st century self help book The Secret, how Chautauqua acts differed from vaudeville acts, and how a specific type of historical impersonation popular in circuit Chautauquas became synonymous with Chautauqua in the modern day. This is the third and final installment of a three part series that explores interconnected topics that deal with American culture and the outdoors.
Links:
The Chautauqua Institution
Chautauqua: An American Narrative (2011)
The History of the Chautauqua Movement
Acres of Diamonds by Russell Conwell
Bohumir Kryl
The height of assassins versus that of their targets Reddit post
Artwork:
Participants of a Circuit Chautauqua at Gurdon (Clark County); circa 1919.
Recorded on 9/22/2024
Monday Sep 16, 2024
Monday Sep 16, 2024
In a more anecdotal direction, this week’s episode is on American Summer camps. The boys detail how camping was first developed in 1861 by Frederick Gunn before discussing their own experiences as campers and counselors at American Summer camps. Amongst other things they discuss how modern Summer camps have felt the need to hyperspecialize and give parents an ROI, how Summer camp aesthetics are 1970’s by default, how Summer camps were depicted as WASPy in Addams Family Values, and how Summer camps were depicted as somewhat utopian in the 1964 Soviet film Welcome, or No Trespassing. This is the second installment of a three part series that explores interconnected topics that deal with American culture and the outdoors.
Links:
The Not So Happy Campers by Mimi Swartz
About our Founder - The Frederick Gunn School
Summer Camp Capitalism
The History of American Jewish Summer Camps
I can tell from her tweets that she had to go live with grandma for a lil bit meme
Wednesday’s revolt from The Addams Family Values
Long accused of Indigenous misappropriation, Boy Scouts ask if it’s time to change
Welcome, or No Trespassing (1964)
Artwork:
Photograph by Andy Sweet
Recorded on 9/15/2023
Thursday Sep 12, 2024
Thursday Sep 12, 2024
Full episode available on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/SilentGeneration
Scouting is a grassroots, child-led movement that began in the early 1900’s after children discovered Robert Baden-Powell’s written accounts of his time working as a scout for the British Army. After learning of children’s interest in his work, Baden-Powell conducted an experimental scout camp at Brownsea Island in 1907 and subsequently published his seminal work Scouting for Boys in 1908. Dozens and hundreds of official scouting organizations followed, most of which still exist today.
On this week’s episode the boys detail the history of various figures and organizations in the scouting movement. Amongst other things they discuss how arbitrary it was that the scouting movement was inspired by scouting, how scout badges and scouting uniforms create an archive of people’s childhoods, how Cub Scouts truthfully don’t create their own pinewood derby cars, and how the TTI industry and wilderness therapy are “dark scouting.” This is the first installment of a three part series that explores interconnected topics that deal with American culture and the outdoors.
Links:
Scouting for Boys by Robert Baden-Powell
The Zoomer Question by Isaac Wilkes
Remembering the Wandervogel by John Savage & Johnny Ryan
David Hahn, The ‘Radioactive Boy Scout’ Who Tried To Build A Nuclear Reactor In His Backyard
Joseph as a Cub Scout
Nanook of the North (1922)
Scouts Honor: The Secret Files of The Boy Scouts of America (2023)
Artwork:
Scouts with canoe - National Parks Gallery
Creative Commons CC0 License
Recorded on 9/9/2024
Thursday Sep 05, 2024
Thursday Sep 05, 2024
Why was Nathan in Rio de Janeiro last week? Why was he there in 2018? What did he do there? What new fruits did he try? These are some of the important questions Joseph asked Nathan on this week’s episode.
Links:
Brazil with a Z vs Brasil with an S - example 1
Brazil with a Z vs Brasil with an S - example 2
Artwork:
Picture of Rio de Janeiro taken by Nathan from Pão de Açúcar
Recorded on 9/2/2024
Saturday Aug 31, 2024
Saturday Aug 31, 2024
How did the spy-fi literary and cinematic genre come to be? This week Joseph and Nathan chronicle how detective fiction authors took inspiration from sensational espionage cases such as The Dreyfus Affair and The Rosenberg Trial to imagine what the front lines of The Cold War might look like. The boys cover “realistic” spy movies such as James Bond’s Dr. No, Three Days of the Condor, and The Bourne Trilogy before going into fantastical depictions of spies in Children’s media like The Spy Kids, Kim Possible, and Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. Amongst other things they discuss the difference between state and industrial espionage, Austria’s constitutionally mandated status of neutrality, and Edward Snowden’s modeling portfolio.
Links:Nathan’s InstagramWas the Rosenberg trial America’s Dreyfus AffairThe Scarlet Pimpernel by Baroness OrczyThe Thirty-Nine Steps by Charles BuchanEp. 53: Bond Girl Summer by Nymphet AlumniPhotos from young Edward Snowden’s brief modeling careerTrying to Make Sense of Hannah Diamond and Post-Ringtone Music by VICEThe Real Life Spy Behind Charlie And The Chocolate FactoryChildren of undercover Russian spy couple only learned their nationality on flight to MoscowExclusive: Suspected Chinese spy targeted California politicians
Artwork:Sean Connery playing James Bond in From Russia With Love
Recorded on 8/16/2024
Thursday Aug 15, 2024
Thursday Aug 15, 2024
Full episode available on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/SilentGeneration
This week the boys are joined by local filmmaker Charles Livingston to discuss male desire. They begin by first discussing straight male desire (the derision of the male gaze, male jealousy and possessiveness, and gender performance) before going into a deep exploration of Nathan’s thesis that yearning is the most universal and inexorable difficulty experienced by gay men. Amongst other things they discuss how the Ancient Romans conflated sexual conquest with imperial conquest, how Cleopatra in Shakespeare's Antony and Cleopatra weaponized mens’ desire, and how straight men and gay men seem to equally match each other in terms of desire.
Links:
Charles Livingston’s Instagram
Wings by Charles Livingston
Oscars 2018: Facts and figures about the members of the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences - Orange County Register
The VICE Guide to Being Gay
Armond and Mark scene from the White Lotus
Artwork: Germanic Warrior with Helmet, Osmar Schindler, 1902
Recorded on 8/11/2024
Joseph & Nathan
Joseph (left) grew up in Las Vegas and works in construction management. Nathan (right) grew up in Chicago and works as a librarian.
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